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1 A Warwickshire brick wall on Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:54 pm

Can anyone help me with the parents of James Allton*, please?  Smile

From his burial record in 1829 in Ansley, Warwickshire (where most of his children were born), he was born abt 1754, but where and to whom?  Question

I have his two marriages and various children:

Marriage 1 on 6 Oct 1780 in Mancetter, Warks to Hannah Snape
and
Marriage 2 on 9 Apr 1787 in Mancetter, Warks to Elizabeth Mousley

When I first started with this family history malarkey, someone sent me their research on the Alltons, which I've kept my eye on as I've done my own, but not taken as gospel, although most of it seems to have checked out.  It only goes back as far as James, and has him as being b. abt 1754 in Nuneaton, but doesn't have any baptism info for him.  

It also states that he has a brother, Henry, b. abt 1749 in Chilvers Coton, Nuneaton, and then details of Henry's marriage (to Mary Coulton in 1771) and children.  Haven't checked any of this out because I can't [yet] see a connection between James and Henry.  

Can anyone help, please?
Thanks
STG  Smile

* sometimes the surname was written as Allton, sometimes Alton, Orton, Horton or some variation of Rolling Eyes

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2 Re: A Warwickshire brick wall on Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:19 pm

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Is this one a possibility? santa

Name:
James Allton

Gender:
Male

Baptism Date:
7 Oct 1754

Baptism Place:
Saint Michael,Lichfield,Stafford,England

Father:
James Allton

3 Re: A Warwickshire brick wall on Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:22 pm

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Marriage 1 on 6 Oct 1780 in Mancetter, Warks to Hannah Snape
and
Marriage 2 on 9 Apr 1787 in Mancetter, Warks to Elizabeth Mousley

Um how come he is still a bachelor when he marries Elizabeth? santa

4 Re: A Warwickshire brick wall on Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:25 pm

Have seen that in other peeps trees. Name and date fit, but no idea about Lichfield. Is there an Ambrose Allton bapt there too? James had a son called Ambrose so that would make the connection more likely Smile

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5 Re: A Warwickshire brick wall on Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:27 pm

> bachelor ...

It's a mystery Wink

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6 Re: A Warwickshire brick wall on Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:35 pm

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Name:
Ambrose Allton

Gender:
Male

Baptism Date:
22 Oct 1757

Baptism Place:
Saint Michael,Lichfield,Stafford,England

Father:
James Allton

Mother:
Elizabeth

7 Re: A Warwickshire brick wall on Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:38 pm

Am liking Lichfield much more now there's an Ambrose Smile Smile

Back on line tomorrow pm so will look more then

Thanks
STG

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8 Re: A Warwickshire brick wall on Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:45 pm

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Possible parents for the Lichfield brothers Cool tho 1741 is a bit early for 1750's births. There could be other children with the surname spelt diff'rent.

Name:
James Allton

Gender:
Male

Marriage Date:
24 Aug 1741

Marriage Place:
Saint Michael,Lichfield,Stafford,England

Spouse:
Elizh Walthew

9 Re: A Warwickshire brick wall on Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:46 pm

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Name:
James Allton

Gender:
Male

Baptism Date:
7 May 1719

Baptism Place:
Saint Michael,Lichfield,Stafford,England

Father:
Amb Allton

10 Re: A Warwickshire brick wall on Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:42 am

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For what it's worth one of the trees on Ancestry does have "your" James parents as James Allton 1720 and Elizabeth Walthew 1715.

Marriage 1741 as found above but would she be having children as late as 1754 & 1757. I guess she might.

Siblings for James per the tree are
Elizabeth no birth year given
Henry 1749-1822
Ambrose 1757

11 Re: A Warwickshire brick wall on Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:47 pm

Somehow with this, I feel I'm so near, yet so far away.   Neutral

Think I'll take myself off to the Records Office in Lichfield early in the New Year.  Maybe seeing the records for myself will help convince me that it is the right Allton family.  

The fact that there are chaps called Ambrose is good - "my" James had a son called Ambrose and it's not the sort of name that comes from absolutely nowhere, is it?

I see from the Ansley burial register that Henry Allton (of Oldbury) died there in 1822, age 73 (so b. abt 1749) so that's quite a good connection.

Will keep you posted. I love you

Thanks for everything.
STG

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