Could someone do a check up

According to a tree on ancestry James Trott had 2 sons called James.

James Trott born 1847 Bristol, married Mary Ann Farmer in 1888. James joined the royal navy when young.

They had 5-6 children
James born 1879
William b 1889
Charlotte 1882-1883
Dorothy b 1895
John b 1897

Now according to this ancestry tree another James was born in 1888.

Have a birth reg for the first James
Births Mar 1879 (>99%) Trott James Bedminster 5c 717
but can find find nothing for the second nor a death for the first.

Any help would be appreciated.

siamese

well the first thing i notice is that the first james trott junior born 1879 is long before their marriage and james trott senior is in barracks at medway kent and unmarried

1881

Name:James Trott
Age:33
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1848
Gender:Male
Where born:Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish:Chatham
County/Island:Kent
Country:England
Street Address:"Royal Marine Barracks"

1871

on vessel in Naples.


though i can see a james trott in 1891 with a son james born 1879 so where was he in 1881

Name: James Trott
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Pratt
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Trott
Gender: Male
Where born: Clifton, Bristol
Civil parish: Clifton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrews
Town: Bristol
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Registration district: Barton Regis
Sub-registration district: Clifton
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household Members: Name Age
James Pratt 43 masons labourer
Mary Ann Trott 33
William Trott 1
James Trott 12 <<<< ok just gone back and looked at image and this james trott is actually 6/12 ie 6 months not 12. ie born 1890 and wrong occuaption so is not your james and mary ann

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1966; Folio: 117; Page: 5

now in 1901 the second james appears
1901
Name: James Trott
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Trott
Mother's Name: Mary A Trott
Gender: Male
Where born: Clifton, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Bristol
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew and St James
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Registration district: Bristol
Sub-registration district: Clifton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household Members: Name Age
James Trott 53
Mary A Trott 43
William Trott 11
Charlotte Trott 8
James Trott 15
Dorothy M Trott 5
John A Trott 3

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2365; Folio: 41; Page: 12

but he is in a strange order in the list and when you look at the original the name louisa was written first and then crossed out and james written above but it does say son etc.

in 1911 she says she had 5 children - alive and one dead - so it looks like the james is the same one and perhaps his age given as younger because he preceded their marriage? though in 1881 i can see her mary ann farmer as a servant so where was james junior born 1879

ok now i can see that james was not 12 in that census but 6 months i can find this birth

Name:James Trott
Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1890
Registration district:Barton Regis
Inferred County:Gloucestershire
Volume:6a
Page:45

so in conclusion i have changed my mind

i think it is the right 1891 census but james senior had a different occupation. wife mary ann still born honiton.

i think your james and mary ann just had the one james born 1890

so i think the 1879 bedminster james trott birth reg you find belongs to a different james trott.

Thanks again Vron, Confirms I have the correct James.

siamese

i think the correct james is the one whose birth reg i found 1890 not the 1879 one

Amended the year

siamese

Oh forgot to mention. You mentioned on the 1911 census 5 children born, 1 died. Charlotte died in 1893.


siamese