James Williams

My Great Grandfather x 3 James Williams born 1767 (c) Olveston Gloucestershire, married Mary Thomas in 1767 St Michael, Bristol.

I really would like to confirm this as several trees on ancestry have different information on their trees, I have e-mailed them with no reply so far.

I found the marriage record on familysearch, Batch no V00035-5. I have also visited the Bristol Record Office and with so many James and Mary's I did not get very far.

These trees have James Williams married to Mary Thomas but totally different children, the children I have are

James born 1801 Olveston
George born 1802
Joseph born 1806
Mary born 1808
John born 1816

I do have the death certficate for George Williams he died in 1856 age 84, a widower, his wife Mary died in 1829.

Any help would be appreciated.

siamese

Hi

1. Does the death certificate give any info about children (i.e. did one of them register the death)?

2. "your" James was b. Olveston in 1801, but you don't say where the others were born?

3. Where did you get the info for (2) above from, please?



Am out for most of the day now, but will try to look tonight when I'm back, fed and watered.



STG

Hi STG

First I realised I had given you his wrong birth year, it was 1772 not 1767.

All the children were born in Olveston Gloucestershire.

Joseph Williams was attendance at James's death, his third son was called Joseph, but on the 1851 census James was living with son James and his family, but Olveston was a small place so the sons (daughter Mary went to the USA) could be in and out.



1851 England Census
about James William
Name:
James William
Age:
79
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1772
Relation:
Father
Where born:
Olveston, Gloucestershire,
Civil parish:
Olveston
Registration district:
Thornbury
Sub-registration district:
Almondsbury
Household schedule number:
34
Piece:
1957
Folio:
139
Page Number:
10
Household Members:
Name
Age
James Williams 50
Mary Williams 40
James William 79
James Williams 6
Joseph Williams 8
Mack Williams 4
Henry Williams 2
Mock Williams3 Mo
George Bakes 20
Ann Edwins 18
John Parmele 13
Joh Hale 37
Mary Hale 40 (daughter)
Mary Hale 7
Susan Hale 5
Norma Hale

The Hale family were staying with Mary's brother before going to the States.

You asked about the marriage

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NKFM-CQG
Groom's Name: James Williams
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Mary Thomas
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 09 Dec 1797
Marriage Place: St Michaels, Bristol, Gloucester, England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M17256-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1595697 IT 3
Reference Number:
Collection: England, Marriages, 1538–1973

Thanks

siamese

Was James senior a farmer do you know?

Bit tenuous but have found a James in 1841 who is a farmer aged 70 in Olveston with a James aged 35 - the son born 1801 rounded down a bit perhaps
Address looks like Tockington.

Hi,

Yes the 1841 census shows my Great Grandfather x 3 and his son James born 1801.

Thanks

siamese