Finding the Anderson Boys in 1911

I have these three brothers all were brothers to my grandmother Mary Anderson/Lloyd she died in 1911 the same week of the census so did not appear.

The Anderson boys were in Liverpool on the 1901 census with mother Isabella and sister Mary Lloyd but I think Isabella died in 1909 or thereabouts.

Can anyone help find these missing boys/men.


Harold A Anderson 1872 Whitehaven
Alfred Anderson 1873 Blackburn Lancs
Johnathan Anderson 1874 Blackburn Lancs
Mary Anderson 1877 Chesterfield darbyshire, died 1911 Liverpool (I have everything on Mary)
Father
Joseph Anderson 10th apr 1836, married 12 Aug 1871 I have the cert for the marriage
died betw 1877& 1881 possibly Chesterfield as Isabella in Liverpool in 1881 with Mary and Isabellas brother Jonathan Harrison.

The boys were with Grandparents Anderson in Workhouse in Cockermouth in 1881

Edna

Jonathan Harrison 1833 Whitehaven, printer Compositor I think I last have him on the 1881 or 1891 census living with sister Isabella Anderson if he can be found, or a death if not.

Edna

I dont have subs to anything

I can see Isabella in 1881 but she is down as Married so maybe husband didn't die before 1881.
Brother is also down as Married but without a wife.

Jno. HARRISON Head M Male 48 Whitehaven, Cumberland, England Compositor
Isabella ANDERSON Sister M Female 39 Whitehaven, Cumberland, England Milliner
Mary ANDERSON Neice Female 4 Chesterfield, Derby, England
Joshua WADDINGTON Lodger U Male 39 Lpool, Lancashire, England Marble Polisher (Mason)

Dwelling 42 Lombard St
Census Place West Derby, Lancashire, England

They're all nicely together in 1891 West Derby. Isabella is now down as a widow.

Any idea why the boys were in the workhouse in 1881?

Isabella Anderson
49
Harold A Anderson
19
Johnathan Anderson
17
Alfred Anderson
18
Mary Anderson
14

Only Harold out of the boys is with mother in 1901 Everton Liverpool.

Isabella Anderson
59
Harold A Anderson
29
Mary Lloyd
24
Isabella H Lloyd
2
Beatrice I Lloyd
1






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I have all the census somewhere but not immediatly to hand and a quick reply to your plea came from top of my head.

I have no record of Joseph Anderson since their marriage Aug 1871 Whitehaven and Marys Birth in April 1876 Chesterfield Dbyshre and thought he had died somewhere between Marys Birth and the 1881 census.

The boys were in the workhouse I think it was Workington and grandparents Jonathan and Mary Anderson were there too.1881.

I have no record of those Andersons after that one.

So if you think Joseph was alive in 1881 he was a solicitors clerk by trade. His father John a labourer.

So there are a few little searches for you Tourmie.
My filing system on this line is just being overhauled but I have not dug out my census copies yet.

Thank you

Edna

Just found the 1881 workington census they are down as being all born Workington, John Anderson is Cotton Weaver born Carlisle but he was born Ireland and Mary is down as born Cockermouth but is born Ireland.They are seperated from the children on the census.

Edna

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1899 (>99%)
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Anderson Jonathan Harrison W. Derby 8b 896 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Davenport Maria W. Derby 8b 896
Mackenzie Jane Ann W. Derby 8b 896
Taylforth William W. Derby 8b 896


Who was the lucky girl then, can anyone find them in the 1911

Groom's Name: Jonathan Harrison Anderson
Groom's Birth Date: 1874
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 25
Bride's Name: Jane Ann Mackenzie
Bride's Birth Date: 1878
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 21
Marriage Date: 1899
Marriage Place: West Derby, St Mary The Virgin, Lancs, England
Groom's Father's Name: Joseph Anderson
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: Thomas Robs Mackenzie
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M03422-4
System Origin: England-VR
Source Film Number: 1546071
Reference Number: 2:3Q3MLLC

Marriage: 15 Apr 1899 St Mary the Virgin, West Derby, Lancashire, England
Jonathan Harrison Anderson - 25 Dental Surgeon Bachelor of 114 Belmont Road.
Jane Ann Mackenzie - 21 Spinster of 41 Victoria Road.
Groom's Father: Joseph Anderson, Deceased
Bride's Father: Thomas Ross Mackenzie, Draper
Witness: Ernest Quinn; William Winstanley
Married by Licence by: J. O. Coop
Register: Marriages 1883 - 1903, Page 198, Entry 396
Source: LDS Film 1546071

confirming joseph dead by 1899

This could be them in 1901 with in-laws.

Thomas H Mackenzie
51
Eliza Mackenzie
42
Isabella Mackenzie
19
Emily Mackenzie
16
Thomas G Mackenzie
14
Eliza Mackenzie
12
John H Anderson
26
Jane Anderson
21

In 1911 they have 2 servants and a 2 year old son down as Thany Ewart but it looks like Harry to me born Wallasey Cheshire.

2 children born 1 died.

This all looks wonderful I will not have time to follow it all up for a day or two as I have surprise visitors now until Monday so I will leave it all in your capable hands to find what else you can.

Thank You

Edna

The actual 1911 form is on there Edna if you'd like me to send you a copy.

birth
1908 ANDERSON Harry Ewart Wallasey Wirral WAL/100/9

poss deaths of child anderson in wallasey between 1901 and 1911

1908 ANDERSON George Robert Kempt 1 Wallasey Wirral WAL/52/83
1904 ANDERSON Albert 2 Wallasey Wirral WAL/45/98

though of course there are others on the wirral though birkenhead and tranmere births give mother maiden name - wallasey doesnt

Name: Harry Ernest Anderson
Event: Christening
Event Date: 21 May 1908
Event Place: New Brighton, Cheshire, England
Gender: Male

Father: Johathan Harrison Anderson
Mother: Jane Anne

Film Number: 1656604
Digital Folder Number: 4018399
Image Number: 143

and you can discount georgekempt birth as i have found his baptism to someone else

Name: Marjorie Doreen Anderson
Event: Unspecified

Father: Jonathan Harrison Anderson
Mother: Jane Ann Anderson


Film Number: 2104767
Digital Folder Number: 4018972
Image Number: 00259

christening: 17 Sep 1913 Burrell Road Prenton

birth ANDERSON Marjorie Doreen 1913 Woodchurch Wirral Cheshire WOO/38/13

she cant be the other child referred to on 1911 though

A possible for Alfred in 1911 aged 38 single born Blackburn with pages of others as a "private" in Scalby Yorkshire.

Re Jonathan Harrison 1833 Whitehaven the only likely one is married to a Frances Bradley in 1856 and they are together in 1881 when your Jonathan is with Isabella so can't be him.

clematised wrote:Just found the 1881 workington census they are down as being all born Workington, John Anderson is Cotton Weaver born Carlisle but he was born Ireland and Mary is down as born Cockermouth but is born Ireland.They are seperated from the children on the census.

Edna

Can anyone find the Grandparents in later census please 1891,1901.

I have John Anderson c1811 born Ireland (see above)

Mary Anderson born c1821 Ireland (see above)

Or deaths for them in Cockermouth/workington area

Thank You

Edna

I Have found all of the childrens Baptisms on Familysearch for the same day 20th March 1879 so they were all in Liverpool at that time.

Edna

Possible Mary in 1891. She's 71 born Ireland a widow pauper in the West Derby Union Workhouse.

Deaths Sep 1893 (>99%)
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Anderson Mary 74 W. Derby 8b 368

Might be the same woman but can't say for sure.

Can't really find any deaths in those areas for either with the right ages.

It is possible Mary would have come to Liverpool to be with Family or near if she was widowed by then.
Deaths are a needle in a haystack really unless you have something close to the date like widowhood but thanks for trying.


Edna

Don't suppose you know what the A stands for in Harold A?

There's a Harry Alexander with wife and 3 childen in 1911 but he says born Liverpool. He's a marine engineer living Hampshire.

Harold Albion?

Name:
Harold Albion Anderson
Mother:
Anderson
Father:
Joseph Anderson
Birth:
12 Feb 1872
Baptism:
20 Mar 1879 - Anfield St Margaret, Lancashire

Harold A death in 1939 Newton Lancs but can't see where he was in 1911.